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Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..

 

He will in time.

 

Please understand Rick Donaldson over at Anomalies, is very quickly coming forth that this said time displacement unit, is infact something else.

 

So it seems what Hertz is doing, is letting the proof of this being a possible hoax, in the hands of Donaldson himself?

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Re: John Titor ,_________ Re; to Hertz

 

You kind-of wanted the truth and why things are as they are today?

 

All I can do here is give this to you.

 

According to proof offered by <a href="http://www.damenhur.org" target="_blank">http://www.damenhur.org</a>, which I don't know if it's in business anymore, the western metropolis city of Atlantis, was almost as big as New York.

 

This city was built on concentric circles, was modern.Had plumbing and self contained power sources.

 

The had immense statues of warriors, that were as tall as skyscrapers and if you went up in this statures, you could see for fifty miles, depending on weather.

 

There were also flying vehicles, of every description held in the air.Some from Atlantis itself, some, from other planetary systems.

 

How things got bad and how we relate to this follows.

 

Atlantis was supposed have had a war with the nearby planet known as Maldeck.

 

Atlantis had won, however a comet had struck the western part of Atlantis, so puncturing the giant gas filled caverns that Atlantis was built on.

This continent sunk in one days time.

 

Other things that Atlantis had done, was to war with the Raman Empire in India, which it had nuked.

 

Again the high priest became incensed at this action and conjured as told in Bullfinche's Occult And Mythical Creatures, both weirwolf and vampire plagues, to strike in Europe, in the middle ages and after that.

 

Believe it or not, things were equally as bad for the vampires, as not only socially were they under stress, but they began having children partially composed of humans, as this is how the vampire virus worked.

 

They wanted a better standard for their children and there is evidence of them recently genetically engineering.

 

They are the other group, that also wants to set things straight.

 

Please understand that the comet strike to Atlantis, may have been known ahead of time? So the highly placed Atlantians may have sought refuge from the destruction of this comet, in underwater buildings, that would not breach water in, as the rest of Atlantis had sunk.

 

What mounts on the Atlantians is one, the destruction of the peaceful Raman Empire and two, the destruction of their own society by a comet and probably not warning the population in time?

 

Time had passed and what seems to occur every so many hundreds of years, are both genocides to thin the population ans wars, which seem to be planned.

 

The last series of genocides started in Armenia around the first world war, then in Germany during the second to the Poles, Gypsies and Jews.

 

This was to thin population, over an insane ideal, that there was both genetically defective peoples as well as subversives.

 

These actions, as well as genetic inferiority in some segments of the population.

 

Mind you now, that the Atlantians never said they were sorry for the nuking of the Raman Empire.So there is a karmic deficit there.

 

The Atlantians married into outlying civilizations such as in South and middle Americas, Europe and other places.

 

So the Atlantian gene is very well established on this globe.

 

This stance now brings us to this modern time that we are in and some of those in power, carry the descendent Atlantian gene.

 

The problem is, that nobody ever made repartitions for the wrong doing of Atlantis.

 

I said that I was sorry, this may or may not have fallen on deaf ears.

 

In the U.S. if a plan is being made to once again euthanize its people; this, regardless if this is by subversive alien influce or not, because of the past karmic damage caused by the Atlantians, if they take such actions again, then they more than likely will be banished from trade in space.

 

This is the one major flaw in the planned euthanasia of part of the population, if the tale being spun by said John Titor is true.

 

Once this is done, then all of the sons and daughters of those who are now holding power here on Earth, will be forevermore banished from offworld acceptance and be sentenced to Earth, forever.

 

The only new contacts we have had outside of the American Natives, as a new Thanksgiving, are the Grays Hybrids of Mars.

 

There is only one set of these beings, who have visited here for two reason.

 

The first one, was to ask a Midwest farmer for a sack of manure, as they did not understand how to gow things on Mars.Ronald Story's Encyclopedia Of UFOs says this happenstance in record.

 

The other was to capture an Earth woman and to keep here in a large plastic bubble for a period of seven years then to return her back to Earth unharmed.

 

The translation from this is; "Yes we might want to get along with you, however we are not like the Indians you once had duped. So keep respect in any of your attempted dealings with us"?

 

If because of the need of projected euthanasia over being allowed to establish a worthy deepspace program is allowed, then the karmic principle of overlap will have occurred and those in power, expressly their offspring, will suffer from a wrath, that is ten fold over what other relations in others times have suffered.

 

You had wanted the truth Hertz?... Then this is the truth.

 

The Pleiadean Atlantians of the Billy Meier landings, would not come out with any of their past relations to Atlantis, in detail.

 

This was so, as the continent of Atlantis and those in power, are still registered as war criminals.

 

There have been exterminations of said German citizens after the war, by a highly placed American official, in order for our soldiers to get a taste for mass genocide,.

 

I would not equate accustoming, to success, if the price to be paid, was the freedom and spiritual welfare, of my own children.

 

Deloris Cannon and projected this horrible happenstance to come, in one of her future based books.

 

Decedents of the Atlantians by Charles Berlitz, the writer, are said to still inhabit one of these special a undweater areas, near the Biminni Islands off the coast of Florida.

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Re: John Titor ,_________ Re; to Hertz

 

Believe it or not, things were equally as bad for the vampires, as not only socially were they under stress, but they began having children partially composed of humans, as this is how the vampire virus worked.

 

 

 

I think I will take the "not" option with respect to your offer of belief. This is quite a long story you have spun here, Creedo. Do you have any sort of objective proof of these wild yarns? If not, then perhaps they belong under the new "Fan Fiction Forum".

 

You had wanted the truth Hertz?... Then this is the truth.

 

 

 

So which part of your disjointed tale do you consider "truth"? And once again, the concept of "truth" traditionally requires some (usually more than one) form of objective proof. But maybe I am just thinking "old school"... ;)

 

The only new contacts we have had outside of the American Natives, as a new Thanksgiving, are the Grays Hybrids of Mars.

 

 

Mmmmmm....most interesting! Perhaps these Grays are the ones who sabotaged our latest NASA Spirit rover, eh? :devil: If so, they will soon have an "Opportunity" to really show us what they are made of! :eek:

 

Kind Regards,

RainmanTime

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Re: John Titor ,_________ Re; to Hertz

 

you have to see the message in the post.. take your mind off the reading as it is clear.

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Re: John Titor ,_________ Re; to Hertz

 

Hello Hertz:

 

Do you have any children? Perhaps named Mega and Giga? :D

 

you have to see the message in the post.. take your mind off the reading as it is clear.

 

 

Hmmmm. I'm not very good with cryptic messages, as I am a left-brainer. Perhaps you or Creedo could simply spell-out the message? I think this might help others on the board who are also trying to understand some of what Creedo goes on about.

 

Kind Regards,

RainmanTime

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Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..

 

So i guess u know about Alexander, Hertz.

Ole' Alex is obviously a fake.

Tell us what you know about JT, I dont like imposters.

 

And one more thing, you and Creedo are not making any sense. Your writing is confusing (i am referring to the last posts).

Try to write a bit clearer, will ya?

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Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..

 

No Imen, I'm making perfect sense.

 

The reports of vampires being socialized enough, in order to make a coordinated attack on the military, were documented by the German High Command in the 1930s.

 

This was a report smuggled out by a Czech worker, who made sure the reports got to the west.

 

What is known from reports on the clans of German vampires, is that they posses an I.Q. in the areas of 250 to 500.

 

This pars with most advanced aliens, good or bad.

 

So from the 30s on, you figure the rest.

 

They could procreate, so had children and parents want better for their children, so......?

 

Other aspects, are well mentioned in Earth The Pleiadean Keys by Barbara Marciniack, on Karmic debt and how any one civilization reaps what they do, with reference to later generations.

 

I don't care whether you like me or believe me, or what I have said suits with your beliefs system.

 

These factors do bear, so you might want to get your nose out of the air and pick up a book and read?

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Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..

 

Creedo... really, what you write doesn't make any sense to errr.. leftbrainers as RainmanTime calls us. It's incoherent, cryptic and often incomprehensible. Perhaps there's a lot of truly interesting and relevant information in your posts, but unfortunately it's not getting through.

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Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..

 

Creedo,

 

No Imen, I'm making perfect sense.

 

 

Maybe in some other reality, but not in the one commonly accepted by most of humanity. And besides that, I think your head it a bit too big.

 

Your writings, in the form of disconnected statements, seem to be trying to reach the level of this web page. Unfortunately, you have a long way to go before you reach this level of clarity and sophistication. I don't accept everything on the quoted Revelatorium site, but it does make some very salient points about accepted human belief systems, handed down thru the ages.

 

Kind Regards,

RainmanTime

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Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..

 

A lot of Creedo's post's that I've read seem to be based on new age spiritual belief's. It would help him get his point across if he didn't assume that everybody knows or understands what he is talking about.

 

And if he just refuses to try and explain himself in an easier to understand way, that just shows him to be extremely ignorant of other people and not as "enlightened" as he would have some believe....

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Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..

 

In this thread what this group has shown, is limited intelligence.

 

In order to survive, you have to be educated of the variables, not combat them.

 

No' I'm not new age.

 

Hold precepts of Marciniack's book only, but not new age.

 

2.Pot shots at another poster, do not make the academic grade, with reference to understanding what is going on.

 

What is of importants here, is understanding any and or most of time travel technologies.

 

3.Why I had posted what I did you Hertz, was to demonstrate my honesty, not any belief systems.

 

Take the example of Holland and the Netherlands.I might say that it is preposterous that anyone could conceivably live below sea level and this is either a hoax, or a sign of low self esteem.

 

If people in Holland Brussels and this area respected themselves well of course they would send for loads of dirt, in order to rise their level, above the sea.

 

What are those people in Holland trying to prove, with a stunt saying they are below sea level?

 

See what I mean, just because you people in this thread can't sit down with a book, take the time and read what I have said, does not mean that this does not exist?

 

The point I was trying to make, is that in this time frame, over the period of twenty to fifty years ago, events have changed.

 

So all prospective groups now have a divvy in the pie, for other purposes.

 

Everything in my last post, was necessary to say.

 

If you want to berate me like a bunch of kindergartners, then do so. Make doubly sure you understand the content of what I'm saying, by your own research levels.

 

Most of you, probably did not follow the logic of the post I put down or even tried to use both web sources and or diagram what I had said?

 

Therefore any retort in the negative to berate me, only undercuts your own position, as your personal view, not research has come forward to the post.

 

I really don't care what you think of me?

 

New age to me, is about a rediculous a term, as the MOP here wearing a baby bonnet?!

 

It does not match.

 

I'm not going to explain myself further, if you can't use book source and web sources when they are offered; then sit in ignorance!?

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Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..

 

I think the posts show better taste then other phony stories i have read.

creedo299 posts are possibly correct as they are very neat concepts.

 

Makes for good reading.

 

creedo299 you have to make them a bit less hard to understand as you do jump from topic to topic a bit, but it is all good. :D

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OK, I guess it is time for my kid gloves to come off to address your blatant hipocrisy:

 

In this thread what this group has shown, is limited intelligence.

 

 

 

Perhaps by your standards of IQ, but by the accepted norms I will trade mine with yours and we could see where we stand in an objective evaluation of intelligence.

 

2.Pot shots at another poster, do not make the academic grade,

 

 

Indeed, and if only you would live by your own words, you might begin to be convincing. As we shall see with more of your own words...

 

Take the example of Holland and the Netherlands...*snip*

 

See what I mean, just because you people in this thread can't sit down with a book, take the time and read what I have said, does not mean that this does not exist?

 

 

The difference here is that one can visit Holland, measure sea level, and see for oneself that it is a fact that people are living below sea level. Your analogy is way off base, as the written references you provide (when they are available) rarely offer any scientific proof.

 

If you want to berate me like a bunch of kindergartners, then do so.

 

 

Hipocrisy. You demean people and look down your nose at them for not being able to understand your clearly disjointed communication style, and then have the gall to claim we are wrong for asking you to raise above your own kindergarten level of sentence structure.

 

Most of you, probably did not follow the logic of the post I put down or even tried to use both web sources and or diagram what I had said?

 

 

 

1. Logic is a science, and you show no capability of forming logical contexts within the rules of this science. If you'd like, I can give you some textbook references on logic, starting with Plato.

 

2. The web source you provided ( www.damenhur.org ), claiming it held "proof" is non-existent. And when your friend, Hertz, pointed this out to you, you had no reply. Of course, to be fair, you claimed in your post that this site may not be in business anymore, but what does this say of your purported "proof", and your childish complaining that we do not study the information you provide?

 

3. If diagramming is so important to understand what you are saying (and as an engineer, I will agree that diagrams are important in understanding technical concepts) then why do you not offer diagrams yourself? You are aware, I am sure, that one can include graphics in one's post. Here is a good one to study:

 

six-sierpinski.gif

 

Therefore any retort in the negative to berate me, only undercuts your own position

 

 

Yes indeed, so you should probably consider this little bit of wisdom before you start telling people they are of "limited intelligence." More of your hipocrisy.

 

I really don't care what you think of me?

 

 

 

Is that a question or a statement? Regardless, you can tell I don't really care what you think about me either. Does this have any bearing on people's request that you clarify your statements, or provide some useable sources that will?

 

if you can't use book source and web sources when they are offered; then sit in ignorance!?

 

 

Again I refer you to your broken link reference. And to make sure you don't slip through the cracks on some of your book references (ISBN numbers would help, if you have them!) here are some comments on my research on those titles, where I could find them:

 

1. Charles Berlitz on Atlantis. The title was not as you had posted. Rather, the title is "Atlantis: The Eighth Continent" and was published in 1985. However, you may wish to update your research to a book written by Richard Ellis, a valid oceanic scientist/researcher. The book is called "Imagining Atlantis" (ISBN 0375705821), and it thoughtfully debunks Berlitz, among others. You can even read the synopsis of the book here. But even if you don't accept this debunking, surely you don't think your reference is better than mine, right? That leaves us at a stalemate until you produce more scientific, objective proof.

 

2. Deloris Cannon. You gave no book title or ISBN for this reference, and I could find no books by her, at least under this spelling of her name. However, I did find a woman by this name who is a past life regression therapist who seems to have a fetish for UFO abductions. This doesn't smell much like objective, scientific research.

 

3. Barbara Marciniak (note I got the spelling of her name correct). At last, a title you got correct. ISBN 1879181215, published in 1994. And seeing how Amazon has it on sale at a bargain of $11.20, I might even order it and have a read. But from the looks of Barbara's other books, she is definitely a New Ager, and while it may not disqualify her potential for providing scientific evidence, it should at least set off some "caution" alerts. Still, in only 288 pages, and in that Barbara claims this information was "channelled" to her by actual Pleiadians, it is hard to imagine there is much there in the form of objective, scientific proof. Is this what you read that you claim to be science???? Here is a quote from one John Horvath, who read this book and reviewed it for Amazon:

 

"This book is by far the most self-serving example of literature I have ever come in contact with. Are we really to believe that Pleiadian beings used the author to write this book, and that they somehow are these benevolent creatures out to help us - to save us from ourselves? Where is skepticism in all of this, where is rationale? Are we naive enough to simply take all of this in without question? Come on now. "

 

Now I don't want it to appear that I have an ego as large as yours, Creedo, but I am a fairly intelligent person who is always willing to read references that people give me, if they are SCIENTIFIC enough to be worth my time in REAL research. But so far, what you have presented is New Age heresay, with very little scientific basis. So if you can't clarify your statements, or if you can't provide better references for what you claim to be "truth" and "fact", then you should at least lay off those of us who call your statements into question, and ESPECIALLY avoid acting all snooty and "more advanced" than the rest of us.

 

Kind Regards,

RainmanTime

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Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..

 

In this thread what this group has shown, is limited intelligence.

 

 

ahem... I know Holland (or the Netherlands if you will) is a small spot on the map. But if you insist on commenting on it, you might want to get your facts straight. Living below sealevel a hoax? Where the *beep* do you get your information from? 24% of our country is below sealevel and that's a known fact. If you want to know more about Holland, I suggest you go to http://www.minbuza.nl which is the website of our ministry of foreign affairs.

Brussels, for your information, is the capitol of Belgium.

 

If people in Holland Brussels and this area respected themselves well of course they would send for loads of dirt, in order to rise their level, above the sea.

 

 

Good thinking, sherlock. Holland is one of the most progressive countries in the world when it comes to watermanagement, but hey, if you have a better idea I suggest you offer your services to our government.

 

Therefore any retort in the negative to berate me, only undercuts your own position, as your personal view, not research has come forward to the post.

 

 

need I say more?

 

I'm not going to explain myself further, if you can't use book source and web sources when they are offered; then sit in ignorance!?

 

 

Then I guess I'll be sitting right next to you.

 

You have to understand that I do not wish to offend you, I'm only saying that 9 out of 10 times I don't understand what you're saying. But perhaps it's just my ignorance.

 

Roel

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Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..

 

Oh Roel' can you ever forgive me? I have offended Holland.

 

Whatever am I to do with myself.

 

I'm sorry, was only making reference to the people who lived below sea level, to point out absurdity.

 

Schizophrenia in the classical sense, is a loose bunch of diagnoses, which only illuminate certain symptomologies.

 

The classical definition of schizophrenia, is not an exact disease, only a rough gathering of opinions.Not really one issue.

 

This was said until a very well place article was posted in Scientific American Magazine, saying, that adult modern schizophrenia, may be caused by a cocci?

 

The predication that pundits of anyone on this board that brings for any information as said being unusual, is that this statement is of course, not hierarchically imbued.

 

So say if I were to point to certain town records and individual report.

 

Say forinstance on relative times modem vampirism, to where a village members corps was uncovered; however they could only open their eyes, however could not attain movement, then this say would be subject to ones classical definition of what is politically correct to say.

 

Why I have spoken at all, is for histrionically notes prevasity, as the modified groups from the town's case-in-point, were the forefathers of a new possible group based in in the U.S. toady.

 

This say is a dihedral angle within philosophy of how standard logic works.

As this say, expressed by the worlds best physicist, state that three dimnsionalism, must be expressed in geometry.

 

This is to where more than one dimension would have to be noted, in order for the universe, to be comply multinatured, within its encompassments.

 

So on this board, same frequency analysis to logics sake, always have a certain disatvange.

 

This board in a lea-off, or a sheltered area, if you will?

 

Iron-clad, jack-booted perceptionst who extol virtue of what's normal, in a not normal natured time travel board, stick our like flashing lights.

 

In order for one to participate in this subject matter, in time travel, they must be able to adopt a social reference to one or more dimensions.

 

So in part, this board and some board-memebers actions, functions on the classical, but not certain definition of schizophrenia.

 

I make no apologies here, but only point to the factor, of the nature of this board, as being multi-versed, in differing realties, all at one time?

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Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..

 

Ahhh, I see! Why didn't you say this before Creedo? It all makes sense now... !

 

;)

 

Oh and one more thing...

 

I'm sorry, was only making reference to the people who lived below sea level, to point out absurdity.

 

 

How can people living below sealevel be a reference to point out absurdity?

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Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..

 

Ahhh, I see! Why didn't you say this before Creedo? It all makes sense now... !

 

 

 

:confused: Yeah...exactly! Methinks we have a CreedoBot on our hands, and a severely distended one at that! :D

 

Kind Regards,

RainmanTime

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Actually, creedo, schizophrenia is a fairly well understood, easily quantifiable psychological/neurological disorder. Below, from the DSM IV-TR. Now... not having met you and interviewed you extensively, I cannot say definitively that you do, in fact, suffer from schizophrenia... but your disturbed ramblings on this board are certainly suggestive of a postivie diagnoses. (btw... I have a Master's in Neuroscience... i.e., I know what I'm talking about..)

 

Diagnostic criteria for Schizophrenia

 

A. Characteristic symptoms: Two (or more) of the following, each present for a significant portion of time during a 1-month period (or less if successfully treated):

 

(1) delusions

 

(2) hallucinations

 

(3) disorganized speech (e.g., frequent derailment or incoherence)

 

(4) grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior

 

(5) negative symptoms, i.e., affective flattening, alogia, or avolition

 

Note: Only one Criterion A symptom is required if delusions are bizarre or hallucinations consist of a voice keeping up a running commentary on the person's behavior or thoughts, or two or more voices conversing with each other.

 

B. Social/occupational dysfunction: For a significant portion of the time since the onset of the disturbance, one or more major areas of functioning such as work, interpersonal relations, or self-care are markedly below the level achieved prior to the onset (or when the onset is in childhood or adolescence, failure to achieve expected level of interpersonal, academic, or occupational achievement).

 

C. Duration: Continuous signs of the disturbance persist for at least 6 months. This 6-month period must include at least 1 month of symptoms (or less if successfully treated) that meet Criterion A (i.e., active-phase symptoms) and may include periods of prodromal or residual symptoms. During these prodromal or residual periods, the signs of the disturbance may be manifested by only negative symptoms or two or more symptoms listed in Criterion A present in an attenuated form (e.g., odd beliefs, unusual perceptual experiences).

 

D. Schizoaffective and Mood Disorder exclusion: Schizoaffective Disorder and Mood Disorder With Psychotic Features have been ruled out because either (1) no Major Depressive, Manic, or Mixed Episodes have occurred concurrently with the active-phase symptoms; or (2) if mood episodes have occurred during active-phase symptoms, their total duration has been brief relative to the duration of the active and residual periods.

 

E. Substance/general medical condition exclusion: The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication) or a general medical condition.

 

F. Relationship to a Pervasive Developmental Disorder: If there is a history of Autistic Disorder or another Pervasive Developmental Disorder, the additional diagnosis of Schizophrenia is made only if prominent delusions or hallucinations are also present for at least a month (or less if successfully treated).

 

Classification of longitudinal course (can be applied only after at least 1 year has elapsed since the initial onset of active-phase symptoms):

 

Episodic With Interepisode Residual Symptoms (episodes are defined by the reemergence of prominent psychotic symptoms); also specify if: With Prominent Negative Symptoms

 

Episodic With No Interepisode Residual Symptoms

 

Continuous (prominent psychotic symptoms are present throughout the period of observation); also specify if: With Prominent Negative Symptoms

 

Single Episode In Partial Remission; also specify if: With Prominent Negative Symptoms

 

Single Episode In Full Remission

 

Other or Unspecified Pattern

 

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Re: John Titor ,_________ Re; to Hertz

 

What is this "jt movie" you keep talking about, Hertz?

Can we see it, or what? I'm sorry about my impatience, but you're supplying excessive suspense. :yum:

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Re: John Titor ,_________ Re; to Hertz

 

there is some guy making a movie about "jt" it is on one of the other boards.

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