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is believe that the improper use of the LG tech and Stargates lead to shift to Timeline2 2 2012

 

quoted:

K: And...

 

D: And I really don't want to get my country into too many problems here. [laughing]

 

K: And, and you got...

 

Marci: If we could stop for a second...

 

K: Go ahead.

 

M: I want to reiterate. The rogue P-45s jumped back, seeded the technology because...

 

D: [nods head yes] Uh huh.

 

M: ...that's what they wanted to do, was to seed the land to help facilitate the catastrophe. Because by placing the technology available they knew that... it would be utilized. And as long as we as people... Oh my God. [camera turns to Marci]. But, they wanted to go back...

 

D: Oh please, tape her!

 

M: ...and seed the technology because they felt that, as people, we would be unable to break ourselves away from using that technology.

 

K: How is it that this technology is being utilized now? And isn't ... if you're talking about a wormhole, isn't it the same thing as a stargate?

 

D: Essentially, yes. The technology is not being utilized now. Anywhere we find it, we take it.

 

K: Who's 'we?'

 

D: Ah...

 

K: Because you have warring factions.

 

D: We...

 

K: You've got the Illuminati on the one hand, you've got the Majestic on another.

from:

Dan Burisch: STARGATES

 

stargate_egypt_4_sm.jpg :)

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Hahaha:

 

I noticed in the third rail diagram there is NO MENTION of the Olympics again.

 

You actually have to stare at it for like 3 minutes to even understand what point the poor sap is trying to make. I realized it was because there is no "start here" point.

 

Maybe I am just a simpleton.

 

I think in three months time I have been down every single "rabbit hole" of conspiracy theory.

 

I am becoming Such a skeptic.

 

I think it was Darby or RainManTime, that had said" I have seen every type of person come in these forums to find an answer to their sorry lives" ~ sorry if I misquoted or got the name wrong.

 

It made an impression on me~ a Strong impression.

 

I am still impressed enough with the community here because they have been through so much with the "events" that have transpired ~ and put enough time into it to become the extreme skeptics themselves.

 

I have questions that I would like to ask FloridaJim or Pamela, But after reading so much, even thinking about asking makes me sick to my stomach.

 

Seeing these "predictions" debunked seems to be a fufillment of some Karma.

 

Anyway didn't mean to hijack.

 

I will give credit to RainManTime again for shooting down camelot-even though I see he gets only a slight pleasure out of it.

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I would like to personally thank recall for hijacking yet another thread.

 

At least Kanigo2 mentioned the Olympics, in an attempt to stay on topic.

 

Personally, I think recall is just starting his own conspiracy to try and deflect attention from the fact that all the major events Titor predicted have NOT come to pass, and the capper will be when the 2008 Olympics open.

 

RMT

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You make it Kinda cut and dry though Time. Logically only have 2 responses to the thread the way it was started.

 

Either I can agree with you(and what fun is there in that?) -OR- I can try to debunk YOUR prediction and agree with the Titor time line.

 

Its a Kobayashi Maru scenario- No win- test of character.

 

So I guess i will defend the time line with rash outbursts and long explanatory threads , obtuse links, earthquake predictions(with pictorial diagrams), Congressional Bills(real and imagined), SOHO images, Up to date News items, HAARP predictions, Cern countdowns, ad. nauseum ....

 

Or maybe I won't- HA!

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Kanigo2:

 

You make it Kinda cut and dry though Time. Logically only have 2 responses to the thread the way it was started.

 

 

Such are the aspects of a well-formed claim. Compare these to Titor's (or even HDRKID's). :)

 

Either I can agree with you(and what fun is there in that?) -OR- I can try to debunk YOUR prediction and agree with the Titor time line.

 

The third option: You can discuss why either side may be right or wrong. And in fact, I would welcome people trying to debunk me. God knows people have debated the whole Olympics prediction since Titor made them... especially as we lead up to the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin, Italy. But perhaps many people are seeing the end of the Titor road. :D

 

So I guess i will defend the time line with rash outbursts and long explanatory threads , obtuse links, earthquake predictions(with pictorial diagrams), Congressional Bills(real and imagined), SOHO images, Up to date News items, HAARP predictions, Cern countdowns, ad. nauseum ....

 

Or maybe I won't- HA!

 

 

;) Is that a bit like putting your hands over yours ears and singing out loud? "La la la la la la, I don't hear you." :) Thanks for at least keeping a light-hearted attitude!

 

RMT

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There is a fourth option, to just Troll around and let people argue.

 

That is a waste of energy though, except for the youngsters to the conspiracy game.Who by the way should do more reading and less Jawboning.}>

 

**Comments requested on this and how it would relate to the Olympics***

 

I asked my stepfather to make a prediction for what he sees happening before the end of the year.

 

But first a few descriptive items about him, he is 65, a retired Unix programmer for Southern California Edison, he was programming the Power grid for California's switching stations.He doesn't watch news and his favorite pastime is reading e-books.

 

~~~~

 

"Washington D.C. would be Condoned off like the"Green Zone" in Iraq, before the end of the year, Open to Washington Politicians and Military Personnel ONLY."

 

~~~~

 

I asked just for personal, selfish, humorous reasons of course.

I did not ask him for his reasoning behind his response, intentionally.

 

 

********** Now back to the subject at hand, The Olympics Prediction********

 

 

 

 

Just so you know RMT, I do see the Olympics going forward, But possibly not completing, partial attendance, Athletes In Protest,The same stuff that comes up at any Olympics.

 

I think Titors "Interpretation" of "No Real Olympics" is subjective in itself also.

 

Mabey ,It means he hates China so much he refuses to recognize the Olympics personally.

(John was Extremely opinionated about China and that would not be the first time I have seen that type of hatred shows its ugly face)

 

It could mean there are No Olympics for half the rest of the world.

 

I have a problem with the fact we all are making an assumption that Only Involves The U.S.A and Its involvement and /or participation in the Olympics itself.

 

That's a vary Narrow view.

 

*I will stop there knowing full well that I have not personally read any previous threads concerning the Olympics and would like to be better informed, so as not to repeat subject matter, suggestions to previous GOOD, Informative Threads are requested.*

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Kanigo,

 

I think Titors "Interpretation" of "No Real Olympics" is subjective in itself also.

 

 

 

That's not exactly what Titor said. Here's the quote from the "Topics Limited to 11 Pages?" thread (Time Travel Institute). TimeTravel_0 is responding to djayr42:

 

TimeTravel_0

unregistered posted 29 January 2001 12:25

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((Are the Olympics still being played in your time?))

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As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004. However, it appears they may be revived in in 2040.

 

 

We shouldn't actually be questioning whether the statement is false because we did have the official winter Olympics in 2006. But in deference to those who suggested that Titor might have assumed that we would assume that he meant no more summer Olympics after 2004 we have extended it to this year.

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We shouldn't actually be questioning whether the statement is false because we did have the official winter Olympics in 2006. But in deference to those who suggested that Titor might have assumed that we would assume that he meant no more summer Olympics after 2004 we have extended it to this year.

 

 

Indeed "we" have, Darby. If we cannot take Titor at his literal word, then everything he said becomes nothing more than an interpretation-fest. Once anyone decides to ignore his literal word, and instead seek out "what he may have been hinting at", then anyone's intepretation is as good as anyone else's. In other words, there can be no standard by which to measure accuracy.

 

It is a simple scientific & logical concept, but one which so many people elect to ignore. If I were to ignore Titor's literal words, I could write a post that shows how what Titor was really talking about was how annoyed he was that the price of chocolate ice cream rises at a faster rate than the price of strawberry ice cream. All it would take is some "creative interpretation".

 

RMT

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I think Titors "Interpretation" of "No Real Olympics" is subjective in itself also.

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((Are the Olympics still being played in your time?))

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As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004. However, it appears they may be revived in in 2040.

 

 

many conflicts- Assuming he meant conflicts Other than just "waco style events"

official Olympics- Open to interpretation.

 

I am not sure he violated his own rules on this statement.

 

I ALSO would like to point that he is relating the conflicts to the olympics, in no uncertain terms but that it is a byproduct of these conflicts and not of EARTHQUAKES(So there goes that one).

 

Follow my train of thought? Care to throw another in?

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Kanigo,

 

many conflicts- Assuming he meant conflicts Other than just "waco style events" official Olympics- Open to interpretation.

 

 

 

I agree with you to the extent that local US Waco events would not result in the Olympics being cancelled worldwide. According to his story the Waco incidents are the precursors to open civil war in the US, followed by a collapse of Western stability in 2005 and a world war in 2015.

 

To avoid the necessity of over interpreting his statements let's just look directly at them.

 

In responding to a question by Lola Montez ("I am from 2036", Post to Post) her replied:

 

Posted by John Titor on 02-27-2001 05:25 PM

 

((You say the civil war lasts from 2004 to 2008 and then the short big one in 2015. What do the years from 2008 to 2015 look like? How long does WWIII last.))

 

I'm not sure I said that exactly. By 2008, I would say the civil conflict is pretty much at everyone's doorstep. Western instability during the conflict leads to the attack in 2015.

 

 

So, the Olympics would be cancelled because there's a civil war in the US that by 2008, i.e. right now, is "pretty much at everyone's doorstep" followed by Western instability that results in 3 billion crispy critter humans.

 

Of course his reply "I'm not sure that I said that exactly" is correct. On one site he said it was 2004. On the other site he said it was 2005. Neither the civil war, as he defined war, nor the Weekly Wacky Waco Incidents have occured.

 

As referenced above, he had a problem with keeping the dates of the civil war straight. When he started posting here on Time Travel Institute he said not once, but three times that the civil war starts in 2005. The first such response was to Pamela herself.

 

However when he started posting on Post-2-Post in late January 2001 he said that the date was 2004. Mike Kolesnik called him on the inconsistency. Titor said that when he said 2005 it was a "missed key" (typo). So Titor settled on 2004 in Post-2-Post. The "typo" (2005) was the most consistent reference to the year, not 2004.

 

One other item that has been the subject of debate and interpretation is the term "civil war" as used in the saga. People have said that maybe Titor meant what's going on now (and in the 2002, 2004, 2006 election years), heated political debate, to mean civil war.

 

In the same post to Mike Kolesnik he further stated:

 

Perhaps our definition of war is different. I would define it as a conflict where organized groups engage in maneuver and armed conflict.

 

 

Thus "civil war" is armed conflict not a debating society. There's not much room for interpretation there because Titor himself supplied the definition of the meaning within the context of his saga.

 

Therefore, the Olympics would have been cancelled after 2004 because there was an armed conflict going on inside the USA - a civil war and not just some Waco Incidents.

 

No Wacos, no civil war, not much to interpret and no joy for the veracity of the story.

 

References:

 

07 November 2000 21:23 "Time Travel Paradoxes", Time Travel Institute

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pamela: 6.what started the war? and who fought in it? who won?what countries were destroyed and what survived?

 

timetravel_0: Wow...that's a big question. There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe. The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed. Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska.

 

 

12 November 2000 16:41 "Time Travel Paradoxes", Time Travel Institute

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I am here for personal reasons. For a few months now, I have bee trying to alert anyone that would listen to the possibility of a civil war in the United States in 2005.

 

 

 

13 December 2000 12:44"Time Travel Paradoxes", Time Travel Institute

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(How and why do the Arabs Jews become entangled in the civil war of the U.S.A?)

 

They are not directly involved but political situations are dependant on Western stability, which collapses in 2005.

 

 

 

02/01/01 08:36 "I am From 2036", Post-2-Post

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The year 2008 was a general date by which time everyone will realize the world they thought they were living in was over. The civil war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse. The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012 and end in 2015 with a very short WWIII.

 

 

 

02/12/01 23:51 "I am from 2036", Post-2-Post

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((8. John says the civil war which starts in 2004 or 2005 (depending on the post) leads to the world war which starts in 2015. ( So we have a TEN YEAR civil war???))

 

It's 2004. I apologize for a missed key (very observant – we all need good critics). Perhaps our definition of war is different. I would define it as a conflict where organized groups engage in maneuver and armed conflict. The first U.S. civil war lasted 4 years and the English civil war lasted 6. How long is too long?

 

 

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Kanigo2

I think Titors "Interpretation" of "No Real Olympics" is subjective in itself also.

 

 

 

 

Rainman's right, if the people who are lamentably still trying to cut the Titor hoaxer slack by throwing the 'interpretation' argument at absolutely everything he said then the hoax really is well and truly washed up!

 

I mean, it makes a joke of every single argument that's ever tabled in favour of Titor from now on. All anyone would have to do, as Rainman points out, is say 'Well, I think what he might have meant by the Waco comments was...um...that Slush Puppy's will fall out favour in the flavoured ice market' and - by these newly established rules - it would have to be given credance.

 

It makes a farce of the whole thing. Only appropriate really for what was a farce to begin with. Kanigo's clutching at straws the same way as HDRKid is on his/her thread.

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The EARTHQUAKES in China and ARTIFICIAL DAMS AND LAKES from RIVERS...

 

Could CANCEL THE OLYMPICS...

 

A vague possibility...

 

 

 

 

TheCigMan

 

 

Add the fact that this year is the "Bamboo Blossom Event" on China... every 50 years...

quoted:

Bamboo blossom is a natural phenomenon that bamboos of a place will blossom and hung with bamboo seeds. In China and India, "bamboo blossom" was traditionally seen as a curse or an indication of a starvation coming.

-snip-

 

Recent studies in India have found that, whenever bamboo blossoms, the rat population will increase fourfold, due to the "bamboo rice" nurturing the rats, and the expanded population of rats consumes the crops stored by people. Starvation is thus caused, so the blossom has become an indicator of coming starvation in Northeast India.

 

 

from:

Wiki

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its also possible that bambi will jump out of my tv screen and let me ride him, but i aint banking on it...

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its also possible that bambi will jump out of my tv screen and let me ride him, but i aint banking on it...

 

 

ahhhh! a freudian slip -an error in speech, memory, or physical action that is believed to be caused by the unconscious mind. ...-

 

translation:

its also possible that a "bimbo" will jump out of my tv screen and let me ride ...

 

LOL :D

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i hate bimbos, so how is that a freudian slip?

 

well, at least i got you out of character once. ;)

 

and no quotes! woot!

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I agree with you to the extent that local US Waco events would not result in the Olympics being cancelled worldwide. According to his story the Waco incidents are the precursors to open civil war in the US, followed by a collapse of Western stability in 2005 and a world war in 2015.

 

To avoid the necessity of over interpreting his statements let's just look directly at them.

 

 

***I Can't Darby and my reasons are History is an "interpretation".

***The Conspiracy Theory grass roots population has taken off. The people that have power write the history. I ask you, WHO has Power in 2036?

 

 

 

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So, the Olympics would be cancelled because there's a civil war in the US that by 2008,

 

***Absolutely Unproven -Hence My interpretation theory.

***I am trying to disprove Possibilities of the Olympics being cancelled.Like Earthquakes(Proven in my mind).

 

 

 

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Thus "civil war" is armed conflict not a debating society. There's not much room for interpretation there because Titor himself supplied the definition of the meaning within the context of his saga.

 

Therefore, the Olympics would have been cancelled after 2004 because there was an armed conflict going on inside the USA - a civil war and not just some Waco Incidents.

 

 

***Darby, Listen! There are armed conflicts everyday.This is a matter of PERSPECTIVE.

***I could send you to Alex Jones webbie, In Alex's Stories This IS AN ARMED CONFLICT.Propaganda is a powerful tool.

***Would you like to dispute that this could get out of hand? http://www.progunleaders.org./

 

 

***************************************************************************************

 

pamela: 6.what started the war? and who fought in it? who won?what countries were destroyed and what survived?

 

***She sounds inquisitive and intuitive. Glad she was there to ask these questions. Or you wouldn't

***even have enough information to work with.

 

 

 

 

****************************************************************************************

 

The entire subject is a paradox.

Even After there are Olympics, which we all agree WILL Happen On time.

I say to you, that if there is a "Nuclear War". Most electronics would fry. The only people saving this information are the people that are prepared for it.

 

 

Now try this on for size Darby, I am service mechanic, My service area is from Ocala to Stuart and from St. Petersburg to Jacksonville.

 

 

I see small communities all over the place in Florida.Isolated.

 

The ones that come to mind the most for this type of attitude, Is Avon Park and around Okechobee(North side) into Fort Myers.

 

Examples:

http://washdateline.mgnetwork.com/index.cfm?SiteID=wsh&PackageID=46&fuseaction=article.main&ArticleID=6920&GroupID=214

 

http://www.adl.org/learn/Events_2001/events_archive_2004_print.asp (View Florida)

 

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/south-florida-gathering-thread-local-368943.html

 

 

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I would like to say that , I feel that the thread is a little sidetracked.

I have to respond though to defend myself(how did I get here?, I thought I made it clear already)

 

 

I reject your argument, Darby. On Hearsay.(which is totally retarded because that's how this started in the first place).

 

 

A video for the fun of it all.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hfYAQB8h22E

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Yeah, Right!

:D

 

LOLol!!!

 

:devil:

 

Quoted:

"Slowly, but SURELY, giving in to

 

Nihilism.

 

Do what you want.

 

Think what you want.

 

"Feel" what you want.

 

Doesn't matter anyway. "

 

end Quoted

 

 

:oops:

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can someone please decipher what recall is trying to tell me?

 

i dont understand machines... ;)

 

"Solve the problem yourself or accept a fate you may not like...from this perspective, the ethic of personal responsibility gains appeal."

 

Noel M. Tichy

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mat_5ACV02_1_th.jpg

 

Back to topic again:

 

What if: the Olympics are or not CANCELED, what becomes of perceptions of John Titor and belief in his future prediction ?

:confused:

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What if: the Olympics are or not CANCELED, what becomes of perceptions of John Titor and belief in his future prediction ?

 

*************************************************************************

 

The Olympics will run on time, but may not complete.(I can't make up my mind,judging by past history on his predictions, The Olympics will finish).

 

The perception of Titor will remain the same, Even after 2015 - remember we are looking for Nuclear War.

 

Remember, Its not about the timeline or the predictions- It is about the desire to understand that drives people to his predictions and what they do with that information.

 

A real study into the human psyche.

 

I just had a fun thought, I think I am going to look into sportsbook and see who has the best odds to bring home the gold between the events. Kinda get into It. I'll edit post when I have more info.

 

Here is the U.S ' Latest cutey in Gymnastics. Just won national.

 

http://www.shawnjohnson.net/

 

Track and Field trials in 6 days.

 

http://www.eugene08.com/

 

Boxing hasn't completed.

 

 

 

 

163 Players (Viewed 589 times)

Yes Olympics should be cancelled or postponed. - 30.67% (50 bets)

50 bets

No. Nothing can stop the games. - 66.87% (109 bets)

109 bets

I dunno. - 2.45% (4 bets)

4 bets

 

Those are current #'s

 

Forgive me for influencing here .. heheh

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recall,

 

What if: the Olympics are or not CANCELED, what becomes of perceptions of John Titor and belief in his future prediction ?

 

 

You say this as if you believe "perceptions" is some singular, group-think sort of thing. Clearly, each person has their own perceptions on Titor's predictions. Those who insist upon being "true believers" always tend to ignore or minimize (make excuses?) for all of those predictions of Titor's that have failed. There will always be such people, and even WHEN the Olympics begin (and end) in Beijing come August, these people will no doubt come up with more excuses for why we should still believe Titor was real.

 

Those are people who, IMO, refuse to live in the reality most of us embrace, and instead continue to wish to live in a fantasy world.

 

RMT

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Nobody commented on this pretty girl....

 

gettoknow_background.jpg

 

Our greatest hope of winning gymnastics. BTW her house was just destroyed in the Floods too. you heartless bastages.

 

 

http://www.shawnjohnson.net/

 

My son was a wrestler and things started occuring to me about how much these poor kids have invested.

I think that will weigh HEAVILY on any chance to Boycott.

 

See, I did have a point!

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Thats a 10-4

 

I coulda posted a 100 things against it but it went against the grain of the thread...

 

So it continues...

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