I'd still like to know why you take the side of "bad" outcome to the US in the Titor story, and not the other way around when you analyze? Could it be that you are not a US citizen? Could it be that you are a citizen of an Islamic state? Do you want to see bad things happen to America?
C'mon, you can tell us if you feel this way. We are all friends here on this forum, aren't we?
Good questions. I like to answer them. I am not a citizen of US. But I am from a country which is MOST BENEFITED from the OUTSOURCING of jobs from US which RenUnconcious was talking about. I am in India (Not an Islamic STATE if you notice and dead against PAKISTAN which is Islamic). If the US economy falls, then the first country to be affected would be mine. So there is no reason I should take the side of 'bad' outcome to the US in the Titor story as you claim. There are also terrorist attacks here by Islamic terrorists from Pakistan. Recently there was a major attack which was avoided.
Ren must be interested to know that I worked for an outsourced Company, its HP. Then I quit my job. Reason, you must come here and see. How they recruit for such jobs, is more laughable in Call Centres. There will be a group of people appointed for the posts where a group of people would quit. All they need is someone to attend to the customers. Another major reason is working in night shifts.
The reason, Profit! What about 4 Americans can do, they'll make one Indian do it here. That is the profit in Outsourcing. The one who is LARGELY benefited is the one who is providing the service here. I would be happier if this guy takes less profit and RESPECT the employees.
Nevertheless I or anyone else quitting jobs, most of them (who can withstand it) are employed and that's what the benefit is.
Now that answered your question. I have questions for you too RMT, my friend.
How do YOU VALIDATE your Government's decisions in a positive manner while some others in your country validate it in a negative manner? What is the real motive of invading Iraq? Is it peace? Do you know for sure? Or is it WMD? Or is it OIL?
Can you tell me what is the REAL motive in the Vietnam War in which many lost lives and gained nothing?
If you look into history, the RUSSIANS would have SUPPRESSED Afghanistan long back if not for US intervention. The so called 'MONSTER' would not be there today. Why did the gulf war happen? Who is responsible for all this? Russia?
Sure Russians are portrayed as Terrorists in certain movies I saw and games I play. Why so?
I just like to hear your comments about these issues, WHICH are dicussed widely on FORUMS and I am not accusing anyone of doing something wrong cuz I am not QUALIFIED to do that.
And about Titor. I'll explain how I got into this. First about six years ago I saw a program called HORIZON in BBC which dealt with TT and multiverses and that is where I first saw Stephen Hawking on Television. Now a year I ago, I was reading the newspaper. There I saw an article about CERN doing LHC experiment in the near future which gave me the CONFIDENCE that Time Traveling could be achieved.
That night I made a search on Time traveling and learnt a few theories about Time Travel. What HAUNED me is How to travel to the past and return to the Original timeline? The answer is Quantum Physics and Multiverses. Then another search got me into Johntitor.com where I read his story and his theories and concepts. It convinced me that it could be a plausible method of TT cuz he gave clear explanation of traveling through time from a DRIVER's perspective. I too thought a civil war would start in 2004. The reason? Titor wrote about WMD and war in the Middle East which was the beginning of his Predictions.
After 2004 nothing happened. Then I concluded it is a HOAX but was breaking my head why would a person invest a lot of time (years maybe) and effort in making this hoax? Then I read about the interpretation about Yellowstone which was PERFECTLY fitting his story. That made me go deep into his story. Then I pursued the LEGACY CODE and Y2K and I found what he told made sense. That is where I found that those who were discussing about Titor never UNDERSTOOD most of his concepts which were hidden in his posts. One example is, people were saying he sent messages on his return journey in 1998 to prevent Y2K. That made me realize the ones who were benefited from his story are not the hoaxers.
Now that explained my intensions on Titor. STILL you accuse me, I don't know what to say.
I seem to see that you do not seem to analyze the position of "what if Titor was lying when he said....". If you were analyzing his statements for a motive, would it not be a fair and/or balanced analysis to assume that the person behind Titor may have had something to gain by pretending to be a TT, and by pretending to know the future, so as to influence people to a certain way of thinking?
Influence people for how long? May be for five months? YES I did consider "what if Titor was lying when he said....", that is why I say he was lying if nothing happens in 2005.
You make it sound as if I should somehow underestimate my enemy, the Islamist terrorist. That is chilling if you actually want me to do that.
Their motive was to not only "shock and awe" America with the attacks of 9/11, but to also soften market sentiment with gloom and doom predictions like those of John Titor PRIOR to 9/11.
You NEED NOT underestimate anyone. What I said was EVEN WITHOUT the John Titor's gloom and doom predictions, a 9/11 WAS POSSIBLE. If it is possible, why would they invest time in this 'TEMPORAL SCIENCE' and 'TIME TRAVELING' projects? Sounds vague to me.
Again I am not validating Titor's words nor want the US economy to go down, I explained what I felt about the Titor story. Anyone reading this need not be influenced by this because they have the right to Judge what is right and what is wrong.
Thanks for the time you spent for these discussions. I'm also glad that I am learning a lot by debating these issues with you RMT.